How to Use Feedback Loops to Validate Ideas with Peep Laja CEO at Wynter

How to Use Feedback Loops to Validate Ideas with Peep Laja CEO at Wynter cover

What are feedback loops? How can product managers use them to build better products that your customers will love?

If you are after the answers to these questions, you’re in the right place! That’s exactly what Peep Laja, the Founder and CEO of CXL and Wynter, talked about in his presentation at the 2022 Product Drive Summit!

How to Speed Up Your Feedback Loops by Peep Laja.

Are you ready to find out more? Let’s dive in!


  • We talk about feedback loops when you collect feedback, use it to improve the product, collect more feedback on the improvements, and so on.
  • Whether you decide to implement a user idea or not, always make sure to acknowledge it.
  • Using feedback loops allows you to make sure there are enough potential customers willing to pay for your product.
  • Closing feedback loops is also necessary to make the product better and increase customer loyalty.
  • If you don’t embed feedback loops, you risk a mismatch between your product and what your customers need or are ready to pay for.
  • Failing to collect and act on user feedback also means missed opportunities to enhance your product, which can be exploited by your competitors. It also sends a wrong signal to the customers.
  • Peep Laja used social media to validate the initial idea for his microlearning platform, CXL. Next, he set up a crowdfunding campaign to check if people would be willing to pay for the product.
  • To find out how the product should work, his team built clickable prototypes, and to ensure CXL offered a state-of-the-art learning experience, he interviewed the best marketing instructors.
  • In the case of Wynter, user feedback helped his team pivot and find the right target audience. Afterward, they used existing tools to build a working prototype that looked and worked like the ready product.
  • That was how they validated the idea and learned a lot about how it should work. As a result, when they launched the MVP, it was already a strong offering.
  • How can Userpilot help you embed and speed up your feedback loops? You can use it to design and run fake door tests to validate ideas. It also makes collecting user feedback and tracking product usage easy.

What are feedback loops?

A feedback loop is when you collect feedback from your customers and, more importantly, act on it.

What’s crucial, it’s not a one-off sequence but rather an iterative process, where the outputs from one iteration become inputs for the next one.

Customer Feedback Loop
Customer Feedback Loop.

What do we mean by acting on it?

If the users come up with a good idea, you may want to implement it. That’s the first step.

You also need to get back to your users and acknowledge that you’ve received the feedback and acted on it. This could be in a form of release notes or an update email.

You spoke and we listened! Hootsuite closing the feedback loop.
Hootsuite closing the feedback loop with a product update.

Even if you don’t use the idea, you still must get back to the user and show them that you recognize their problem. You need to look into the problem and find an alternative way to solve it for them.

So if you decide not to change the UI interface, you may still consider using in-app onboarding flows to help the users navigate the existing design.

Why are feedback loops important?

Embedding tight feedback loops into your product management process helps you solve a number of problems.

First, you need them to validate your product idea.

Before you build anything, you need to find out if there’s enough interest in your product. Also, you need to check if there are enough customers that are ready to pay for the product.

To be able to monetize your product, it needs to solve user problems or satisfy their needs and desires. Naturally, the bigger they are, the greater the potential for profit.

Second, it helps you improve your product.

Your users can provide you with insights that your team members wouldn’t come up with themselves. Acting on these can improve your product experience considerably.

Finally, acting on user feedback means you care about their experience and you’re committed to delivering value. This will boost customer loyalty to your company and brand.

Dangers of not closing the feedback loop

If you don’t implement feedback loops into product development from the very beginning, you risk developing a product that nobody will ever use or be willing to pay for.

From a business point of view, that’s a complete waste, so you need to answer questions about product viability upfront.

Even if there’s demand for your product, it may take you much longer to achieve product-market fit or customer fit if you don’t seek insights from your users.

By not collecting user feedback or not acting on it, you also miss the opportunity to make your product better for your customers. If you don’t do that, it’s almost certain that your competitors will sooner or later. Care to guess whose product your customers will choose?

Last but not least, failing to collect and acknowledge your users’ feedback means you don’t really value their input. That’s not exactly great for your business reputation.

Feedback loops at CXL

CXL is a micro-learning platform specializing in marketing. The courses are delivered by top-of-the-league instructors with tons of hands-on experience in their craft.

CXL was born out of the idea that users usually don’t need or want comprehensive courses covering the subject in-depth. Instead, they need bite-sized chunks of training that would help them learn how to complete a particular task.

When Peep started working on the idea, however, it was far from certain that users would be interested in such a product. To avoid wasting resources, he implemented feedback loops to verify demand.

He started by putting out the idea on social media. Thanks to his substantial LinkedIn and Twitter following, he was able to collect enough feedback to confirm that his idea may have some traction.

Commenting or giving likes was one thing but would users really put their money where their mouth was?

To check if he could monetize the idea, Peep used a Kickstarter-style campaign. At a low cost, they built a landing page with a video presenting the new product and asking for support. The $120,000 that people invested in the promise of the product was enough proof to proceed.

The next stage involved clickable prototypes and interviews to find out how users would like the product to work.

They also analyze how the best marketing experts did things and used their experience to build the learning materials to make sure they followed the best practices.

This allowed them to build the right product from the very beginning without expensive rework later on.

CXL website
CXL website.

How does Wynter execute feedback loops?

Peep Laja used feedback loops to effectively validate the idea behind Wynter as well.

Wynter is a message-testing platform that allows you to collect feedback from B2B customers.

Wynter website
Wynter website.

Originally the product was meant to be for consumer companies, like e-commerce businesses.

Early feedback, however, showed that the market was saturated but in the process, they discovered that there might be a demand for their product from B2B companies.

That’s where they decided to pivot but before they built a single line of costly code, they needed to check how badly the target customer really wanted the product. Or in other words, if they wanted it enough to pay for it.

To find out, they ran what Melissa Perri calls the Wizard of Oz experiment.

This meant combining a few existing no-code tools to build a prototype. They also did some of the work manually behind the scenes to make it work as the ready product would.

More importantly, they charged their customers as if it were a ready product to check how much it was worth for them.

The feedback from the customers was very encouraging. Many of them were happy to share their positive experience on social media and the team generated $10,000 in revenue without spending anything on building the product yet.

The experiment also helped them learn about how the product and its UI should work.

Next, they built the MVP. It still wasn’t a fully functional product but thanks to the lessons learned, it was “a strong 7/10.”

The team went on iterating based on the user feedback to improve the tool.

How to use Userpilot to speed up your feedback loops

Userpilot is a product adoption tool that allows you to collect and analyze user feedback necessary to make informed decisions about your product development.

Fake door testing

Fake door testing is a sneaky way to test your assumptions and validate a product idea before you even have the product.

What’s so sneaky about it?

Basically, it involves tricking your users into believing the feature already exists so that you can watch if and how they engage with it.

Let’s imagine you are thinking of developing a new feature but are not sure if your users want it. Userpilot allows you to create bespoke in-app messages which you can use to attract your users’ attention to the feature.

In this hypothetical Asana example, we’ve used a tooltip for that purpose.

Userpilot tooltip used in a fake door test.

Once a user clicks on the feature, they will need to know what is happening. So how about creating a modal that explains you’re planning to build the feature but it’s not ready yet?

You can also use it to encourage users to join the beta testing program when the feature is finally ready.

A Userpilot modal used in a fake door test.

If there is enough engagement, it means you may be onto something worth building.

You can also use it to test how much your user would be ready to pay for the product. That’s exactly what Buffer did.

Buffer fake door test
Buffer fake door test.

What if you have no product at all?

All you really need is a landing page with decent copy that potential customers would find compelling and run a fake door test from there.

Of course, you won’t have any active users at this stage, so you may need to resort to paid advertising to attract traffic to the page to start with.

Collect user feedback

Thanks to Userpilot, you can easily collect feedback from your users without any coding skills or help from your engineers.

Start by building an in-app survey to track NPS, customer satisfaction (CSAT) or product-market fit (PMF).

PMF survey in Userpilot
PMF survey in Userpilot.

What’s more, you can enhance your survey with a follow-up question. Such qualitative feedback will give you more granular insights.

A follow-up question to collect more detailed feedback
A follow-up question to collect more detailed feedback.

The surveys can be triggered contextually, for example when your users complete an action or use a feature for the first time.

What’s even better, Userpilot enables you to target specific user segments you may have identified in the previous feedback loops.

User segmentation in Userpilot
User segmentation in Userpilot.

And what if your users don’t respond to the survey but then feel the need to give you feedback on a feature they’ve just engaged with?

Make sure you make provision to collect such passive feedback as well. With Userpilot, you can easily embed a feedback form in your resource center.

Collect passive feedback to tighten your feedback loops
Collect passive feedback to tighten your feedback loops.

Track product usage

Product usage tracking can tell you what your users can’t in the feedback.

Userpilot allows you to tag features and track how users engage with them.

Using Userpilot to track how users engage with your product's UI.
Using Userpilot to track how users engage with your product’s UI.

If you can see that a feature is underutilized even though users from a specific segment would benefit from it, you can reach out to them to see what could be the reason for that.

Once you have the outcomes of the interviews, you can start thinking of how to solve the problem. Sometimes, a bit of nudge with a tooltip or hotspot may be enough to increase engagement. Other times, more in-depth redesign may be needed to improve usability.

Usage tracking in Userpilot is not limited to features though. Apart from clicks, you can also track text inputs or even hovers!

To adopt a product, users often need to complete a sequence of actions. Tracking each of them separately could be a proper pain. However, you can now group them into custom events so that you can track and analyze them together.

Custom events in Userpilot
Custom events in Userpilot.


Incorporating feedback loops into the early stages of the product development cycle will help you avoid building a product that nobody will use or pay for.

Later in the product lifecycle, feedback loops allow you to make data-driven decisions on how to develop it to match the needs of your customers even better.

If you would like to see in practice how Userpilot can help you collect and analyze user feedback, book the demo!

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